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i just - you know sometimes it's hard to forget that cognitive dissonance and hating characters isn't the characters fault - it's the creator's. It is just good. Also Read: 16 'Taboo' Main Characters, Ranked by How Dirty They Are (Photos) But Delaney, it turned out, was not simply motivated by some kind of nihilistic rage. Despite my complaints, Taboo‘s first season was good. I believe after the funeral, he went to say, “That’s it — I want nothing to do with you.” Instead of that, he says, “Take that f—ing dress off,” which just came out of his mouth, like somebody trying not to go back to their primary addiction or obsession. Zilpha killing herself seems perfectly in line with what we have learned of her mental state. For all we know. But it was confirmed minutes after Thorne died. But no, I don't think she is dead, or else we would have seen her corpse and unless weighted down, bodies float . I felt as if her story with James war really strangely contrived. When his plot is betrayed and Zilpha takes drastic action against her husband, Delaney faces all out chaos, complicated further by a family revelation … James Delaney/Zilpha Geary [Thistle and Weeds] - Duration: 2:06. (2)He gets the flashbacks/images of his witch-mother while they're having sex. James had plenty of opportunities to kill Thorne, but he didn’t because Zilpha didn’t want him to — he wanted her to leave him. tells me that might be true. They couldn't vote, or inherit property. It’s almost a punishment, but he’s unaware of that. I'm assuming, of course, that the boy is the product of Delaney and Zilpha's taboo relationship. she shoots herself) or show her body? She still worried about heaven and God's judgment and we know that James doesn't believe in any of it. I too felt that this particular turn of events was...inadequate. Polly is one of the strongest characters. TrueMikki17 ... Kristall Rin 32,352 views. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, http://ew.com/tv/2017/02/28/taboo-season-1-finale-postmortem-tom-hardy-steven-knight/. Taboo’s first season abandons that question along with the question of whether James can really hear the dead, dismissing it as “a question to be asked and answered in America.” Too many questions are left unanswered. Ravens carry the souls of the dead to...odd speculation thread on Reddit. Earth: The properties of magic in this show has been heavy with spirit, water, and fire. Concluding Thoughts on Taboo Season 1. I think the writer's intention with the deaths of Winter and Zilpha were to illustrate how the innocent/beloved people in James' life get hurt unintentionally, thereby reinforcing that he's a bad dude and you should stay away. Certainly in season 1. I feel they got cold feet during the time they were filming and decided to go into another direction. I think it was evident in her letter to him at the end. If she was dead he would hear her singing. What about the Russian girl in seasons 3? So, no, I don't think she is dead. In the last, and very much least, of the available roles was Zilpha Geary, estranged half-sister to the brooding James Delaney. Dude, if people think James is crazy... Zilpha was a bloody lunatic. She was never going to board the ship, she wasn’t right. It's too soon to let her die. I'm not ready to re-watch them all yet. Lorna had a few cheeky digs at James. James and Zilpha didn't even need to have sex, I would have been so much more satisfied if they'd just TALKED for once. There are enough of us crazy bitches in the world to screw him over, right girls? He saw her as just like him, someone who was free from societal trappings, in control and self-possessed, maybe she was like him when they were younger. Should be short and to the point. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Also the cannibal thing was completely dropped after episode 3. If you’ve been watching Taboo from the beginning, you’ve been waiting for shit to get really bizarre. i needed the writers to give a shit about zilpha. There’s a forbidden longing, and lust pulling them together like two magnets even though they are half brother and sister. (1)Zilpha was hurt from rejection, plus she no longer had no backup because she killed her husband. So I thought Id start a board for people to talk about the incestuous relationship that James and Zilpha have. James appeared to flick away something from his shoulder after being shot. All verbal the references to their love was really more concerning their sexual attraction and not their actual feelings for each other. The incest was the Taboo. Thoyt: The land in your father's will is not only useless, but dangerous to anyone who owns it. James was horrified and how is THAT DISGUSTING? She's dead. we had the strong feeling that zilpha had more control in that relationship, honestly i think we thought that too because the relationship would feel more acceptable for us if we didn't think james (as the older brother) was exploiting his younger sister, so the hints throughout the season (like you mentioned the church) show zilpha in control to the point where she's even playing games with him (that church scene was a power play if there ever was one) sort of confirmed this for us which was a relief (because purely from a standpoint as a woman we didn't want to see ANOTHER relationship that had those kind of undertones that suggest a woman was being manipulated. their relationship had so much potential, zilpha could have been so much more than a chick robbed again and again of her agency. She was my least favorite character and I was glad to see her go tbh. Elsewhere, Lorna sets out to discover the truth, whilst Zilpha perhaps has already found her own. it just felt like an injustice to her and to oona - because the way their relationship was initially presented it felt like zilpha had the ability to be conniving and probably had been cruel to james in how she managed that relationship as much as she loved him, it would have been so interesting watching them call each other out and exploring how problematic they could have been towards each other and built on that NOT JUST? Zilpha is the daughter of Horace Delaney’s second wife, and she was a child who Horace probably preferred to James. Armed with the opportunity they have been longing for, the Crown and Company conspire to bring him down once and for all. It appears she did. Why James Delaney has done any of this is anybody’s guess. James revealed that he had discovered Dumbarton's true intentions and his alliance with the East India Company. Which leaves us with the question of Lorna. Created by Steven Knight with Tom Hardy and Chips Hardy, the drama series Taboo is set in 1814 and follows James Keziah Delaney (Tom Hardy), a … James leaves, but they are both full of mistrust for the other. What do you guys think? But no, I don't think she is dead, or else we would have seen her corpse and unless weighted down, bodies float . James and Zilpha can’t exactly elope or Zilpha will hang. she was the one who came on to him. If he feels any shame - he seems to be immune from finer feelings. It's the same reason why the cannibal aspect was never mentioned again after episode 3. It aired on BBC One in the United Kingdom, on 7 January 2017 and on FX in the United States, on 10 January 2017.A second series was announced during March 2017. He didn't need to be seen preferring to bonk his sister to be tortured and unhinged. Permalink: They're my rocks now. Now I don't agree with incest, but I'm so tired of everyone putting this all on James and saying Zilpha is a victim. There was no immediate Spooky DANGER going to happen to explain that James vision AT EXACTLY WHEN THEY had sex, than a Oedipal one. James talks to the dead. Especially that scene in the church where he's just sitting there and she sits on his lap. (I would be a little disappointed at this, to be honest.) Both of which destroyed her from the inside out. I'm glad they can evoke this sort of stuff without going full-on supernatural. Directed by Anders Engström. Not up to my expectations, but my expectations were very, very high. One, the images of James' mother and Zilpha kept inter flashing as if similar=the same for essence of James' vision spirit seeing it all as if Zilpha was possessed by his mother AS HE WAS FKING HER. She had submitted herself to a respectable life that he had compromised. If they get a second season, the writing and story would be impressive if they surprise us with Zilpha having had some master plan of her own. Chris “Holy Spirit” Sawin @evilbutters. There are echoes of The King in Yellow's unreliable narrator schtick in James' madness. The "Taboo" finale was mostly well received by the twitter audience, however, it also triggered strong feelings from citizens of Shat Nation: anger over Zilpha's death, frustration over plot holes, curiosity about James Delaney's mental state, and hope for a "Taboo" season 2 and beyond. I don't think that's what happened. I didn't see any of that. Jumping from that bridge doesn't necessarily kill you anyway, it's not like it was the Golden Gates bridge. • Zilpha might be a dead woman walking, but her wardrobe remains magnificent. Not sure if that hints at the exorcism having some impact or not but seemed an odd thing for him to say. It … I think he sees the light after that.". Zilphas character was very underwritten.I hated James complete 180 turn towards her.She was written for the shock value and then dropped.I think your right with Step mummy lol,she instantly cares for James for reasons??? if you know any of the fic writers for this pair it seems that we all had the same idea on how they developed. Zilpha did that of her own volition, which ironically makes her seem insane as he rejected her, in a passionate way. I feel like I watched too many shows to believe that someone is dead unless you actually and clearly see them die or they show the body. I love Tom Hardy and Steven Knight's peaky blinders remains to me the greatest show on earth, it was just such a blow to me to be so let down in such an unexpected way. While Taboo seems to be telling a revenge story, it seems much more interested in exploring the complicated family drama between Zilpha and James. Zilpha was a very interesting character but I felt we barely knew her and we had to fill in the blanks. The reason why he buried Thorne was because he felt bad that Thorne had died when he didn’t have to die. In FX’s new show, Taboo, produced and co-written by star Tom Hardy, the Noble Savage is James Delaney (Hardy), a British citizen returned from a long absence in Africa, to claim his inheritance after his father’s death. She murdered her husband, and was rejected by James. And..I thought her plan to kill her husband went pretty well, so she can plan. The chemistry between Hardy as James and Chaplin as Zilpha oozes between the two of them every time they are near each other. I feel like the storyline had a lot potential but they decided to just drop it because it seems Knight has a problem with any female character that isn't 100% submissive to the male lead (Peaky Blinders also has the same problem). Roger, Gene & Big D attempt to answer: Why did the kill off the most interesting character (Zilpha)? You didn't even use that as a better explanation. When Zilpha tries to push James away he basically tells her that is impossible because of the “great big river that connects them” and says “I will always be this close to you, won’t I?”. With Russell Westbrook likely to leave, the Rockets were hoping that they will get to keep Harden. Considering it's only been 8 episodes, I'd say there's been a fair amount of people dying for such a short episode span. No, James had a … Zilpha is Jame's last remaining link to London, I dont think she'll be dead. Her being pushed to the point that she murdered her husband was the result of his meddling. Also If we're to believe James can speak to the dead then isn't Zilpha still alive since he can't 'hear her sing' as he says. ', since you seem to think you have some "SPECIAL IN' on how the writer/producers are making this story, wow you just enlightened me, YOU SEE EVERY THING CORRECT in this show. Chris “Holy Spirit” Sawin @evilbutters. I don't think she is dead. Did she get in the middle of a James and Mommy spiritual cage match? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I could be wrong but from what I've surmised is that she most likely came onto him. It's becasue they didn't have the balls or the talent to write a compelling incest story. Hardy/Knight shoved the concept of incest in our faces as if it was some revolutionary idea. But while James was making deals to secure his freedom, his poor sister Zilpha couldn’t deal with hers. She has advised the Americans to accept the monopoly James wants against Nootka. I don't think any of the male characters would've been able to do that. We just never saw him do it. Now that season 2 is confirmed, I expect one of two things: 1- Zilpha will haunt James persistently throughout his upcoming adventures, and it will affect him far more than the other dead people he sees/hears. I've been watching the show since episode one, and I know that ever since Game of thrones the subject of incest isn't so taboo on tv anymore and many writers now use it to increase the Drama of a movie or tv show. mother and they as PreTeen started having sex pretending similarity identicalness and love. A second series was announced during March 2017. The earliest copy of the Infancy Gospel of James is a text discovered in 1958 and dating to the 4th century. Zilpha gets pregnant and probably goes abroad to the continent to have the baby in secret. Taboo is a BBC television drama series produced by Scott Free London and Hardy Son & Baker. She was certainly willing but he lost all interest after their little sex session and had those visions. I say Zilpha probably heard of him saw him and fantasized snuck into his part of the grounds made separate due to his crazy Nat.Am. if your whole plot/mystery falls apart if you let zilpha say one line, then that says a whole lot more about the weakness of your plot than it does about the actors. Set in 1814, Taboo follows one James Keziah Delaney (Hardy), a man long presumed dead who returns to London from Africa to claim his share of his deceased father’s shipping empire. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. If you pay attention these flashbacks happen as some kind of 'spider sense' as a warning of danger in other scenes. But when James wakes up the next morning in the mud, Winter is found dead. When you wanted to make art and you just made me laugh. They knew each other’s madness and she kind of stepped across an unwritten line between the two of them. I understand the story they tried to tell. also what the fuck - james showed no indication that he was ever gonna let zilpha come on that ship with him? because in those days it wasn't uncommon for men of 30 to marry girls as young as 14; from a young age Girls were raised to be subservient to men, and treated like property or second class citizens. Well AIONCAN, Troll posting below Cursing at my open IMHO opinion by saying 'WTF? Her obviously had feelings for her and for her to snuff herself out like that must of hurt. zilpha isn't supposed to be some weepy wife in the end, when we were watching this show we wanted her to gain her strength, to move out from beneath her husband's shadow, not to get swallowed up in james'. Anyone else annoyed as hell at the swift shunting off of Zilpha as a nutter who commits suicide(no need to write for her character into the next season), conveniently James is all nearly religious anti-his love lust for her by the writers making it seem he's horrified realizing it's Oedipal wanting to fuck his mother by fucking Zilpha so tells her to Screw off good bye, and that's why they fuck is from hate of their mother/Father seeing it in each other? Taboo Quotes. And Zilpha makes it clear that James’ strangling of her the episode prior was ok. That they just have to take it slower… and that they have all the time in the world. Married to Thorne Geary. Your simplistic ASSUMED interps are as WTF to me jumping logic assuming motivations yet denying the shown actions and said things in the same breath by Zilpha & James. James rejected ZILPHA EXACTLY AS YOU STATE, wtf? As half siblings and they were probably kept from each other as NORMAL siblings, see Wiki on Westermark Effect (cause/cancelling incest thus social normalizing siblings). The masked figure was revealed to be Thorne on episode 7. BBC and FX‘s Taboo: Season 1, Episode 8 ended the season by tying up loose ends, killing off good, bad, and grey … The abuse she suffered had destroyed her. You just have a problem with Oedipal incest!?! Zilpha did that of her own volition, which ironically makes her seem insane as he rejected her, in a passionate way. Like James, Taboo encounters out-and-out evil as a mere obstacle to be effortlessly surmounted in the race to the finish line. Did Zilpha really die? I'd rather a better delving into their issue and continued the love but they are obviously going to have James date and fuck his stepmother actress. Taboo Season 2: Apparently Tom Hardy Is Back In The Role Of James Keziah Delaney For The Second Installment ... as well as Oona Chaplin as Zilpha Geary, Stephen Graham as Atticus and Jefferson Hall as Thorne Geary. She could barely even make up her own mind let alone hatch a master plan to fake her own death. Shrouded in mystery and preceded by wild rumours. J ames had fled to Africa after having stolen fourteen diamonds in England, after the death of his father. Death ( e.g problem with any female character that is n't just a Delaney. Victorian society been waiting for shit to get really bizarre with a masked figure revealed... Not have been able to handle the freedom that James had so much potential, Zilpha have! James suddenly getting over her came of nowhere of the fic writers for pair. Full of holes, silly dialogue, terrible acting and for her snuff. My open IMHO opinion by saying 'WTF immune from finer feelings they were horribly by! 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